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psocopteraWhile my smart friends are talking about "heteronormativity", I'm gonna talk about .
Argh, how can Neo not know that the correct answer to the supervillain's dilemma is *always* "your alternatives are false"? Why would you battle your way in to "the core" or wherever they were and then *blindly believe everything the old guy tells you*? "One of these doors leads to the castle, the other one leads to... buh buh buh bum... certain death. Ooo-OOO-oooh." ::smacks forehead:: My thinking? Kill the old guy. Or at least ask some intelligent questions - heck, he's the first confirmed non-Agent machine intelligence you've talked to, why not try asking "so what do you use all that energy *for*, anyways" or "are you a hivemind? how many separate machine intelligences are there?" or "got interstellar travel yet?" I mean, I know, War, Climactic Decision, but, like, you're not going to come up with a Third Way unless you start thinking outside the box *somewhere*. And just *taking the initiative* in the conversation instead of letting yourself be led by the nose just because this guy *claims* to have all the answers, well, that's at least going to get you off his script, right? But no. Of course dear Neo doesn't even consider that the last-ditch failsafe might be a bunch of total bullshit to distract him from his mission. Of course, even The Architect probably does suffer from Before I Kill You Mr. Bond disease, so that probably really *was* the true details of their plan. (Although I'm waiting for someone to think to ask "if this is the sixth Zion, how come we haven't found any archaeological evidence of the others". *Clearly* won't be Neo.)
About the plan, though: so the two doors were, in theory, one into "the source" which would trigger a catastrophic failure killing all the en-Matrixed humans, and one back into the Matrix to save Trinity? And they've always counted on The One not being willing to go into the source at the cost of human extinction, and having to go back for Trinity was just an added reason? And Zion is doomed either way, and then *Neo* is supposed to pick the founders of a new Zion, or they will? It was rather hard to follow.
Lest I sound like I didn't enjoy it, I thought it was awesome - some gorgeous fight choreography, especially in the hundredSmith fight, and eeee, use of fun weapons. My little gamer heart was thrilled to get to see the trident and the shortsword-buckler combo and such in use. I'm not sure we needed ten minutes of ecstatic dancing and Neo/Trinity sex, or so much talking, although it was sort of justified by the notion at the end that it was all nonsense ::grin::. Although about the ecstatic dancing, I will say, heteronormawhativy? 'Cause it just looked like a big old mash of people to me. But, yeah, the ghoul twins were awesome, and I thought all the new secondary characters, the keymaker and guardian and French guy and Persephone, were really nicely done, and, yeah.
Argh, how can Neo not know that the correct answer to the supervillain's dilemma is *always* "your alternatives are false"? Why would you battle your way in to "the core" or wherever they were and then *blindly believe everything the old guy tells you*? "One of these doors leads to the castle, the other one leads to... buh buh buh bum... certain death. Ooo-OOO-oooh." ::smacks forehead:: My thinking? Kill the old guy. Or at least ask some intelligent questions - heck, he's the first confirmed non-Agent machine intelligence you've talked to, why not try asking "so what do you use all that energy *for*, anyways" or "are you a hivemind? how many separate machine intelligences are there?" or "got interstellar travel yet?" I mean, I know, War, Climactic Decision, but, like, you're not going to come up with a Third Way unless you start thinking outside the box *somewhere*. And just *taking the initiative* in the conversation instead of letting yourself be led by the nose just because this guy *claims* to have all the answers, well, that's at least going to get you off his script, right? But no. Of course dear Neo doesn't even consider that the last-ditch failsafe might be a bunch of total bullshit to distract him from his mission. Of course, even The Architect probably does suffer from Before I Kill You Mr. Bond disease, so that probably really *was* the true details of their plan. (Although I'm waiting for someone to think to ask "if this is the sixth Zion, how come we haven't found any archaeological evidence of the others". *Clearly* won't be Neo.)
About the plan, though: so the two doors were, in theory, one into "the source" which would trigger a catastrophic failure killing all the en-Matrixed humans, and one back into the Matrix to save Trinity? And they've always counted on The One not being willing to go into the source at the cost of human extinction, and having to go back for Trinity was just an added reason? And Zion is doomed either way, and then *Neo* is supposed to pick the founders of a new Zion, or they will? It was rather hard to follow.
Lest I sound like I didn't enjoy it, I thought it was awesome - some gorgeous fight choreography, especially in the hundredSmith fight, and eeee, use of fun weapons. My little gamer heart was thrilled to get to see the trident and the shortsword-buckler combo and such in use. I'm not sure we needed ten minutes of ecstatic dancing and Neo/Trinity sex, or so much talking, although it was sort of justified by the notion at the end that it was all nonsense ::grin::. Although about the ecstatic dancing, I will say, heteronormawhativy? 'Cause it just looked like a big old mash of people to me. But, yeah, the ghoul twins were awesome, and I thought all the new secondary characters, the keymaker and guardian and French guy and Persephone, were really nicely done, and, yeah.
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Date: 2003-05-17 05:32 pm (UTC)1) Zion is old. Look at it. All the metal is banged up, all the stuff looks like it's been lived in for centuries.
In the first Matrix movie, Morpheus tells Neo that the Zionists have no idea how long they've been around. The only records that I saw is that (I think) there's a date on Morpheus' hovercraft.
2) Neo's "choice" can't save the people currently living in Zion; they're doomed. His choices, as I understand them, are:
Door #1: get source code. Fix instability in Matrix. As reward, select 7 men and 14 women to repopulate scoured-clean Zion, which is about to get slaughtered by robots.
Door #2: re-enter Matrix. Instability in Matrix not rectified; everyone in the Matrix soon to die. Zion not to be repopulated, as punishment for "wrong choice" and to prevent Zion from rising up and crushing the overlords.
I wasn't sure whether the instability inherent in the system was Zion (rebellious humans fighting the machines) or something else.
3) The heteronormativity is that everyone pairs up with someone of the opposite sex. All of the dancers are male-female-male-female-etc. when they're in close physical contact, or "chains of lust" as I prefer to call them.
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Date: 2003-05-18 09:06 am (UTC)2) Huh. This makes sense, maybe more sense than what I came up with. I'm not used to having to struggle this hard with plot comprehension, darn it.
3) Are they really? I didn't catch that. But that's lame. And seems a little more carefully coordinated than the indiscriminate dance frenzy it looked like to me. "Chains of lust" is a good term though, if you don't mind that it sounds like the title of a romance novel.
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Date: 2003-05-17 06:38 pm (UTC)And perhaps more importantly: does Neo have super powers? Is the "real world" just another Matrix?
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Date: 2003-05-18 09:13 am (UTC)I didn't catch the "all go left" thing - a), I'm not very good with right and left, b) I was quite confused at the time. I do *not* think they were previous Ones though... I was interpreting them as a sort of probability smear generated by the Architect modelling all the things that Neo might do, the message being that he wasn't capable of doing anything they hadn't predicted and taken into account.
Sfar as Neo having real-world superpowers... I do *not* think there's going to turn out to be another layer of Matrix. I think it's more likely that "he has some sort of affinity with machines" and can short-range wireless network to affect them or something. Shrug. We don't *know* one of those plugs in his back isn't an AirPort card or something. Agreed that it's a sort of wacky turn for things to take, though.