2023 Hugos nomination stats!!
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psocopteraI believe we've hit 90 days later and they became required to release these. Here.
I don't understand their charts or EPH well enough to follow exactly what happened in Novel. It looks like Babel was third in raw nominations, and then has a value that doesn't change between subsequent rounds while other things are eliminated, and is just low enough at the end to not make the ballot, but also has an asterisk with a note that google-translates to "it wasn't eligible". I think there are some big questions here. Other than that, the first runner-up was something Chinese, and then Mountain in the Sea, which is neat to see it make it that far. Half-Built Garden also on the longlist.
In Novella, Prayer for the Crown-Shy is listed as having Declined Nomination, which is definitely a different annotation than Babel.
The Novelettes have both a Not Eligible and a Declined Nomination from SB Divya, who had said back in June that she was declining. "Turing Food Court" also seems to be on the list twice??
In screamtastic news Across a Field of Starlight got one less nomination than Supergirl. So close. So fucking close. And Other Ever Afters made the longlist too.
In Fan Writer, Paul Weimer (third most ballots, "not eligible") is on File 770 saying this is news to him and he'd like an explanation. He was a finalist in 2020, 21, and 22.
Xiran Jay Zhao was Not Eligible for the Astounding despite having been a first-year nominee in 2022. Zhao's final number is higher than Xin Weimu's, who did end up on the ballot.
I don't want to be like "soooo, I guess China could not be trusted with a Worldcon after all" but seriously, what the fuck happened here.
I don't understand their charts or EPH well enough to follow exactly what happened in Novel. It looks like Babel was third in raw nominations, and then has a value that doesn't change between subsequent rounds while other things are eliminated, and is just low enough at the end to not make the ballot, but also has an asterisk with a note that google-translates to "it wasn't eligible". I think there are some big questions here. Other than that, the first runner-up was something Chinese, and then Mountain in the Sea, which is neat to see it make it that far. Half-Built Garden also on the longlist.
In Novella, Prayer for the Crown-Shy is listed as having Declined Nomination, which is definitely a different annotation than Babel.
The Novelettes have both a Not Eligible and a Declined Nomination from SB Divya, who had said back in June that she was declining. "Turing Food Court" also seems to be on the list twice??
In screamtastic news Across a Field of Starlight got one less nomination than Supergirl. So close. So fucking close. And Other Ever Afters made the longlist too.
In Fan Writer, Paul Weimer (third most ballots, "not eligible") is on File 770 saying this is news to him and he'd like an explanation. He was a finalist in 2020, 21, and 22.
Xiran Jay Zhao was Not Eligible for the Astounding despite having been a first-year nominee in 2022. Zhao's final number is higher than Xin Weimu's, who did end up on the ballot.
I don't want to be like "soooo, I guess China could not be trusted with a Worldcon after all" but seriously, what the fuck happened here.
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Date: 2024-01-20 06:24 pm (UTC)(And not to hijack your post, but, hey, i have a "read all the Hugo-eligible adult non-superhero graphic novels and then talk about having done so" project, and i'm getting serious about it this year, so if you're someone who not is facebook friends with me (Psocoptera's IRL friend who also follows the Hugos), and is interested in this project, reply to this comment and i'll loop you in on whatever i write up about it.)
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Date: 2024-01-20 06:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-01-20 07:08 pm (UTC)IMO the novella ballot is maybe the place where it most clearly does not pass the "what we know about Hugo voters" smell test: Even Though I Knew The End was a great novella that i am glad i read and that i personally nominated and hoped some other people would too, but it is not credible that six times as many people nominated it as nominated eventual-winner Drowned Girls by perpetual-Hugo-favorite Seanan McGuire. Like, that's just not a real thing that came out of organic balloting.
I feed bad for this year's winners. :>(
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Date: 2024-01-20 07:16 pm (UTC)