Locus Awards!
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psocopteraI voted in these but I didn't record my votes anywhere, and anyways I've read more stuff since then, so whatever. If you want to see the results without my commentary you can see them here. Everything else behind a cut for length.
SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL
WINNER: The City in the Middle of the Night, Charlie Jane Anders
The Testaments, Margaret Atwood
Ancestral Night, Elizabeth Bear
Empress of Forever, Max Gladstone
The Light Brigade, Kameron Hurley
Luna: Moon Rising, Ian McDonald
The Future of Another Timeline, Annalee Newitz
Fleet of Knives, Gareth L. Powell
The Rosewater Insurrection/The Rosewater Redemption, Tade Thompson
Wanderers, Chuck Wendig
I've read City, Empress, Brigade, and Timeline. Would have voted for Brigade if voting today. City and Brigade are Hugo nominees and it's interesting to see City beat Brigade because I would have given Brigade much better odds. Hm.
FANTASY NOVEL
WINNER: Middlegame, Seanan McGuire
Ninth House, Leigh Bardugo
A Brightness Long Ago, Guy Gavriel Kay
The Raven Tower, Ann Leckie
Jade War, Fonda Lee
Gods of Jade and Shadow, Silvia Moreno-Garcia
The Starless Sea, Erin Morgenstern
Storm of Locusts, Rebecca Roanhorse
The Iron Dragon’s Mother, Michael Swanwick
Dead Astronauts, Jeff VanderMeer
I've read Middlegame, Raven, Gods, and Storm. Would have voted for Raven Tower if voting today. Middlegame is a Hugo nominee.
HORROR NOVEL
WINNER: Black Leopard, Red Wolf, Marlon James
Imaginary Friend, Stephen Chbosky
Prisoner of Midnight, Barbara Hambly
Curious Toys, Elizabeth Hand
The Grand Dark, Richard Kadrey
The Institute, Stephen King
The Twisted Ones, T. Kingfisher
Anno Dracula 1999: Daikaiju, Kim Newman
The Pursuit of William Abbey, Claire North
The Toll, Cherie Priest
I know I did vote for Twisted Ones because it remains the only one of these I've read (and I liked it a lot).
YOUNG ADULT NOVEL
WINNER: Dragon Pearl, Yoon Ha Lee
King of Scars, Leigh Bardugo
The Wicked King, Holly Black
Pet, Akwaeke Emezi
Catfishing on CatNet, Naomi Kritzer
Destroy All Monsters, Sam J. Miller
Angel Mage, Garth Nix
War Girls, Tochi Onyebuchi
The Book of Dust: The Secret Commonwealth, Philip Pullman
Shadow Captain, Alastair Reynolds
Go Yoon Ha Lee! I think I voted for Catfishing but this is certainly a nice outcome, and also possibly predictive for the Lodestar (Pearl, Catfishing, and Wicked are nominees).
FIRST NOVEL
WINNER: Gideon the Ninth, Tamsyn Muir
The Water Dancer, Ta-Nehisi Coates
Magic for Liars, Sarah Gailey
The Ten Thousand Doors of January, Alix E. Harrow
A Memory Called Empire, Arkady Martine
Infinite Detail, Tim Maughan
Finder, Suzanne Palmer
A Song for a New Day, Sarah Pinsker
Waste Tide, Chen Qiufan
The Luminous Dead, Caitlin Starling
I've read half of these (and it'll be six when I finally finish Song for a New Day). I like reading things by new authors. I voted for Memory; this is very interesting from a Hugos-prediction standpoint, since Gideon, Memory, and Doors are all on the ballot. I had predicted Gideon for the Nebula and Memory for the Hugo, but of course Song took the Nebula... hm hm hm.
NOVELLA
WINNER: This Is How You Lose the Time War, Amal El-Mohtar & Max Gladstone
“A Time to Reap“, Elizabeth Bear
To Be Taught, If Fortunate, Becky Chambers
“Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom”, Ted Chiang
The Haunting of Tram Car 015, P. Djèlí Clark
Desdemona and the Deep, C.S.E. Cooney
The Gurkha and the Lord of Tuesday, Saad Z. Hossain
Permafrost, Alastair Reynolds
The Deep, Rivers Solomon, with Daveed Diggs, William Hutson & Jonathan Snipes
The Ascent to Godhood, JY Yang
I've read eight of these, because damn I love the novella renaissance. I think I voted for To Be Taught. I had originally predicted Anxiety for the Hugo and Time War for the Nebula, but now I'm thinking Time War could run the table.
NOVELETTE
WINNER: “Omphalos”, Ted Chiang (Exhalation)
“Erase, Erase, Erase”, Elizabeth Bear (F&SF 9-10/19)
“For He Can Creep“, Siobhan Carroll (Tor.com 7/10/19)
“A Country Called Winter”, Theodora Goss (Snow White Learns Witchcraft)
“Late Returns”, Joe Hill (Full Throttle)
“Emergency Skin”, N.K. Jemisin (Forward)
“The Justified”, Ann Leckie (The Mythic Dream)
“Phantoms of the Midway”, Seanan McGuire (The Mythic Dream)
“Binti: Sacred Fire”, Nnedi Okorafor (Binti: The Complete Trilogy)
“The Blur in the Corner of Your Eye“, Sarah Pinsker (Uncanny 7-8/19)
See, I'm not wrong that people like Chiang! Totally think it can win the Hugo too. I've only read four of these since they mostly seem to have been in print magazines or collections.
SHORT STORY
WINNER: “The Bookstore at the End of America”, Charlie Jane Anders (A People’s Future of the United States)
“Lest We Forget“, Elizabeth Bear (Uncanny 5-6/19)
“The Galactic Tourist Industrial Complex”, Tobias S. Buckell (New Suns)
“It’s 2059, and the Rich Kids Are Still Winning“, Ted Chiang (New York Times 5/27/19)
“Fisher-Bird”, T. Kingfisher (The Mythic Dream)
“I (28M) created a deepfake girlfriend and now my parents think we’re getting married“, Fonda Lee (MIT Technology Review 12/27/19)
“The Girl Who Did Not Know Fear“, Kelly Link (Tin House ’19)
“Thoughts and Prayers“, Ken Liu (Future Tense 1/26/19)
“A Brief Lesson in Native American Astronomy”, Rebecca Roanhorse (The Mythic Dream)
“A Catalog of Storms“, Fran Wilde (Uncanny 1-2/19)
Maybe I should read this Mythic Dream collection, hm. I think I voted for Galactic Tourist (having read 6 of them). Or I might have written in, actually, I have just recalled that they have that option and I sometimes use it because I don't really care who wins these and would rather put my faves on Locus's internal records of whom people bother to write in. This is the second winner that I haven't read (the first was the Horror winner).
ANTHOLOGY
WINNER: New Suns: Original Speculative Fiction by People of Color, Nisi Shawl, ed.
Echoes: The Saga Anthology of Ghost Stories, Ellen Datlow, ed.
The Very Best of the Best: 35 Years of The Year’s Best Science Fiction, Gardner Dozois, ed.
A People’s Future of the United States, Victor LaValle & John Joseph Adams, eds.
Broken Stars: Contemporary Chinese Science Fiction in Translation, Ken Liu, ed.
The Mythic Dream, Dominik Parisien & Navah Wolfe, eds.
The Best Science Fiction & Fantasy of the Year, Volume Thirteen, Jonathan Strahan, ed.
Mission Critical, Jonathan Strahan, ed.
The Best of Uncanny, Lynne M. Thomas & Michael Damian Thomas, eds.
The Big Book of Classic Fantasy, Ann VanderMeer & Jeff VanderMeer, eds.
Ohh, Mythic Dream was a Parisien and Wolfe collection, now it is all clear. And also my usual channels have clearly failed me if I could entirely miss that there was a new Parisien and Wolfe collection! New Suns is the only one of these I've read but it was definitely worthwhile.
COLLECTION
WINNER: Exhalation, Ted Chiang
Of Wars, and Memories, and Starlight, Aliette de Bodard
The Best of Greg Egan, Greg Egan
Snow White Learns Witchcraft, Theodora Goss
Full Throttle, Joe Hill
Meet Me in the Future, Kameron Hurley
The Very Best of Caitlín R. Kiernan, Caitlín R. Kiernan
The Best of R.A. Lafferty, R.A. Lafferty
Hexarchate Stories, Yoon Ha Lee
Sooner or Later Everything Falls into the Sea, Sarah Pinsker
I manage about one single-author collection a year and this year was the Chiang, so hey.
MAGAZINE
WINNER: Tor.com
Analog
Asimov’s
Beneath Ceaseless Skies
Clarkesworld
F&SF
File 770
Lightspeed
Strange Horizons
Uncanny
Sure.
PUBLISHER
WINNER: Tor
Angry Robot
DAW
Gollancz
Harper Voyager
Orbit
Saga
Small Beer
Subterranean
Tachyon
Damn I love the novella renaissance, so I'm pretty sure I voted for Tor too.
EDITOR
WINNER: Ellen Datlow
John Joseph Adams
Neil Clarke
Gardner Dozois
C.C. Finlay
Jonathan Strahan
Lynne M. Thomas & Michael Damian Thomas
Ann & Jeff VanderMeer
Sheila Williams
Navah Wolfe
I probably voted for the Thomases.
ARTIST
WINNER: John Picacio
Kinuko Y. Craft
Galen Dara
Julie Dillon
Bob Eggleton
Donato Giancola
Kathleen Jennings
Shaun Tan
Charles Vess
Michael Whelan
Let's! recognize! more new artists!
NON-FICTION
WINNER: Monster, She Wrote: The Women Who Pioneered Horror and Speculative Fiction, Lisa Kröger & Melanie R. Anderson
Lost Transmissions: The Secret History of Science Fiction and Fantasy, Desirina Boskovich, ed.
The Time Machine Hypothesis: Extreme Science Meets Science Fiction, Damien Broderick
Reading Backwards: Essays and Reviews, 2005-2018, John Crowley
Joanna Russ, Gwyneth Jones
Kim Stanley Robinson, Robert Markley
The Pleasant Profession of Robert A. Heinlein, Farah Mendlesohn
Broken Places & Outer Spaces: Finding Creativity in the Unexpected, Nnedi Okorafor
The Lady from the Black Lagoon: Hollywood Monsters and the Lost Legacy of Milicent Patrick, Mallory O’Meara
HG Wells: A Literary Life, Adam Roberts
I'm probably skipping this category in the Hugos, but I guess if I have time I can check out that one.
ILLUSTRATED AND ART BOOK
WINNER: Spectrum 26: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art, John Fleskes, ed.
The Illustrated World of Tolkien, David Day
Julie Dillon, Daydreamer’s Journey
Ed Emshwiller, Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller, Jesse Pires, ed.
Donato Giancola, Middle-earth: Journeys in Myth and Legend
Raya Golden, Starport, George R.R. Martin
Fantasy World-Building: A Guide to Developing Mythic Worlds and Legendary Creatures, Mark A. Nelson
Tran Nguyen, Ambedo: Tran Nguyen
Yuko Shimizu, The Fairy Tales of Oscar Wilde, Oscar Wilde
Bill Sienkiewicz, The Island of Doctor Moreau, H.G. Wells
Spectrum is a boring winner.
SPECIAL AWARD 2020: INCLUSIVITY AND REPRESENTATION EDUCATION
WINNER: Writing the Other, Nisi Shawl, Cynthia Ward, & K. Tempest Bradford
Uhhhh... okay, so, look, Writing the Other is a classic, and I have actually read it, but I am not convinced that "let's honor a book that's been around for like 15 years" is actually the triumphant recognition of contemporary Black voices that Locus maybe thinks it is. I don't know, I guess "oh shit we never gave that star an Oscar let's give them a Special Award" is a thing in the Oscars, so it might as well be here too, buuuut... I am totally not qualified to speak to this, but I feel like part of what Racefail was about was trying to get *away* from the "Writing the Other" model to the "shut up and listen to the Other writing themselves" model?? Although I guess "Writing the Other" does speak to that, iIrc. And maybe a big org like Locus embracing this is a good step towards moving the window of how we value diversity in books. I guess I'd like to hear what Shawl thinks, or maybe current writers of color who have talked about these issues (Jemisin? Roanhorse? Ng?). I hope I'm not being a dick about this in the way I'm talking about it - I'm not opposed to showering Shawl and Ward and Bradford with recognition! I guess I have now convinced myself that I'm voting for Ng's speech in the Related Works, actually, though, so, I've accomplished something here. :/
SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL
WINNER: The City in the Middle of the Night, Charlie Jane Anders
The Testaments, Margaret Atwood
Ancestral Night, Elizabeth Bear
Empress of Forever, Max Gladstone
The Light Brigade, Kameron Hurley
Luna: Moon Rising, Ian McDonald
The Future of Another Timeline, Annalee Newitz
Fleet of Knives, Gareth L. Powell
The Rosewater Insurrection/The Rosewater Redemption, Tade Thompson
Wanderers, Chuck Wendig
I've read City, Empress, Brigade, and Timeline. Would have voted for Brigade if voting today. City and Brigade are Hugo nominees and it's interesting to see City beat Brigade because I would have given Brigade much better odds. Hm.
FANTASY NOVEL
WINNER: Middlegame, Seanan McGuire
Ninth House, Leigh Bardugo
A Brightness Long Ago, Guy Gavriel Kay
The Raven Tower, Ann Leckie
Jade War, Fonda Lee
Gods of Jade and Shadow, Silvia Moreno-Garcia
The Starless Sea, Erin Morgenstern
Storm of Locusts, Rebecca Roanhorse
The Iron Dragon’s Mother, Michael Swanwick
Dead Astronauts, Jeff VanderMeer
I've read Middlegame, Raven, Gods, and Storm. Would have voted for Raven Tower if voting today. Middlegame is a Hugo nominee.
HORROR NOVEL
WINNER: Black Leopard, Red Wolf, Marlon James
Imaginary Friend, Stephen Chbosky
Prisoner of Midnight, Barbara Hambly
Curious Toys, Elizabeth Hand
The Grand Dark, Richard Kadrey
The Institute, Stephen King
The Twisted Ones, T. Kingfisher
Anno Dracula 1999: Daikaiju, Kim Newman
The Pursuit of William Abbey, Claire North
The Toll, Cherie Priest
I know I did vote for Twisted Ones because it remains the only one of these I've read (and I liked it a lot).
YOUNG ADULT NOVEL
WINNER: Dragon Pearl, Yoon Ha Lee
King of Scars, Leigh Bardugo
The Wicked King, Holly Black
Pet, Akwaeke Emezi
Catfishing on CatNet, Naomi Kritzer
Destroy All Monsters, Sam J. Miller
Angel Mage, Garth Nix
War Girls, Tochi Onyebuchi
The Book of Dust: The Secret Commonwealth, Philip Pullman
Shadow Captain, Alastair Reynolds
Go Yoon Ha Lee! I think I voted for Catfishing but this is certainly a nice outcome, and also possibly predictive for the Lodestar (Pearl, Catfishing, and Wicked are nominees).
FIRST NOVEL
WINNER: Gideon the Ninth, Tamsyn Muir
The Water Dancer, Ta-Nehisi Coates
Magic for Liars, Sarah Gailey
The Ten Thousand Doors of January, Alix E. Harrow
A Memory Called Empire, Arkady Martine
Infinite Detail, Tim Maughan
Finder, Suzanne Palmer
A Song for a New Day, Sarah Pinsker
Waste Tide, Chen Qiufan
The Luminous Dead, Caitlin Starling
I've read half of these (and it'll be six when I finally finish Song for a New Day). I like reading things by new authors. I voted for Memory; this is very interesting from a Hugos-prediction standpoint, since Gideon, Memory, and Doors are all on the ballot. I had predicted Gideon for the Nebula and Memory for the Hugo, but of course Song took the Nebula... hm hm hm.
NOVELLA
WINNER: This Is How You Lose the Time War, Amal El-Mohtar & Max Gladstone
“A Time to Reap“, Elizabeth Bear
To Be Taught, If Fortunate, Becky Chambers
“Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom”, Ted Chiang
The Haunting of Tram Car 015, P. Djèlí Clark
Desdemona and the Deep, C.S.E. Cooney
The Gurkha and the Lord of Tuesday, Saad Z. Hossain
Permafrost, Alastair Reynolds
The Deep, Rivers Solomon, with Daveed Diggs, William Hutson & Jonathan Snipes
The Ascent to Godhood, JY Yang
I've read eight of these, because damn I love the novella renaissance. I think I voted for To Be Taught. I had originally predicted Anxiety for the Hugo and Time War for the Nebula, but now I'm thinking Time War could run the table.
NOVELETTE
WINNER: “Omphalos”, Ted Chiang (Exhalation)
“Erase, Erase, Erase”, Elizabeth Bear (F&SF 9-10/19)
“For He Can Creep“, Siobhan Carroll (Tor.com 7/10/19)
“A Country Called Winter”, Theodora Goss (Snow White Learns Witchcraft)
“Late Returns”, Joe Hill (Full Throttle)
“Emergency Skin”, N.K. Jemisin (Forward)
“The Justified”, Ann Leckie (The Mythic Dream)
“Phantoms of the Midway”, Seanan McGuire (The Mythic Dream)
“Binti: Sacred Fire”, Nnedi Okorafor (Binti: The Complete Trilogy)
“The Blur in the Corner of Your Eye“, Sarah Pinsker (Uncanny 7-8/19)
See, I'm not wrong that people like Chiang! Totally think it can win the Hugo too. I've only read four of these since they mostly seem to have been in print magazines or collections.
SHORT STORY
WINNER: “The Bookstore at the End of America”, Charlie Jane Anders (A People’s Future of the United States)
“Lest We Forget“, Elizabeth Bear (Uncanny 5-6/19)
“The Galactic Tourist Industrial Complex”, Tobias S. Buckell (New Suns)
“It’s 2059, and the Rich Kids Are Still Winning“, Ted Chiang (New York Times 5/27/19)
“Fisher-Bird”, T. Kingfisher (The Mythic Dream)
“I (28M) created a deepfake girlfriend and now my parents think we’re getting married“, Fonda Lee (MIT Technology Review 12/27/19)
“The Girl Who Did Not Know Fear“, Kelly Link (Tin House ’19)
“Thoughts and Prayers“, Ken Liu (Future Tense 1/26/19)
“A Brief Lesson in Native American Astronomy”, Rebecca Roanhorse (The Mythic Dream)
“A Catalog of Storms“, Fran Wilde (Uncanny 1-2/19)
Maybe I should read this Mythic Dream collection, hm. I think I voted for Galactic Tourist (having read 6 of them). Or I might have written in, actually, I have just recalled that they have that option and I sometimes use it because I don't really care who wins these and would rather put my faves on Locus's internal records of whom people bother to write in. This is the second winner that I haven't read (the first was the Horror winner).
ANTHOLOGY
WINNER: New Suns: Original Speculative Fiction by People of Color, Nisi Shawl, ed.
Echoes: The Saga Anthology of Ghost Stories, Ellen Datlow, ed.
The Very Best of the Best: 35 Years of The Year’s Best Science Fiction, Gardner Dozois, ed.
A People’s Future of the United States, Victor LaValle & John Joseph Adams, eds.
Broken Stars: Contemporary Chinese Science Fiction in Translation, Ken Liu, ed.
The Mythic Dream, Dominik Parisien & Navah Wolfe, eds.
The Best Science Fiction & Fantasy of the Year, Volume Thirteen, Jonathan Strahan, ed.
Mission Critical, Jonathan Strahan, ed.
The Best of Uncanny, Lynne M. Thomas & Michael Damian Thomas, eds.
The Big Book of Classic Fantasy, Ann VanderMeer & Jeff VanderMeer, eds.
Ohh, Mythic Dream was a Parisien and Wolfe collection, now it is all clear. And also my usual channels have clearly failed me if I could entirely miss that there was a new Parisien and Wolfe collection! New Suns is the only one of these I've read but it was definitely worthwhile.
COLLECTION
WINNER: Exhalation, Ted Chiang
Of Wars, and Memories, and Starlight, Aliette de Bodard
The Best of Greg Egan, Greg Egan
Snow White Learns Witchcraft, Theodora Goss
Full Throttle, Joe Hill
Meet Me in the Future, Kameron Hurley
The Very Best of Caitlín R. Kiernan, Caitlín R. Kiernan
The Best of R.A. Lafferty, R.A. Lafferty
Hexarchate Stories, Yoon Ha Lee
Sooner or Later Everything Falls into the Sea, Sarah Pinsker
I manage about one single-author collection a year and this year was the Chiang, so hey.
MAGAZINE
WINNER: Tor.com
Analog
Asimov’s
Beneath Ceaseless Skies
Clarkesworld
F&SF
File 770
Lightspeed
Strange Horizons
Uncanny
Sure.
PUBLISHER
WINNER: Tor
Angry Robot
DAW
Gollancz
Harper Voyager
Orbit
Saga
Small Beer
Subterranean
Tachyon
Damn I love the novella renaissance, so I'm pretty sure I voted for Tor too.
EDITOR
WINNER: Ellen Datlow
John Joseph Adams
Neil Clarke
Gardner Dozois
C.C. Finlay
Jonathan Strahan
Lynne M. Thomas & Michael Damian Thomas
Ann & Jeff VanderMeer
Sheila Williams
Navah Wolfe
I probably voted for the Thomases.
ARTIST
WINNER: John Picacio
Kinuko Y. Craft
Galen Dara
Julie Dillon
Bob Eggleton
Donato Giancola
Kathleen Jennings
Shaun Tan
Charles Vess
Michael Whelan
Let's! recognize! more new artists!
NON-FICTION
WINNER: Monster, She Wrote: The Women Who Pioneered Horror and Speculative Fiction, Lisa Kröger & Melanie R. Anderson
Lost Transmissions: The Secret History of Science Fiction and Fantasy, Desirina Boskovich, ed.
The Time Machine Hypothesis: Extreme Science Meets Science Fiction, Damien Broderick
Reading Backwards: Essays and Reviews, 2005-2018, John Crowley
Joanna Russ, Gwyneth Jones
Kim Stanley Robinson, Robert Markley
The Pleasant Profession of Robert A. Heinlein, Farah Mendlesohn
Broken Places & Outer Spaces: Finding Creativity in the Unexpected, Nnedi Okorafor
The Lady from the Black Lagoon: Hollywood Monsters and the Lost Legacy of Milicent Patrick, Mallory O’Meara
HG Wells: A Literary Life, Adam Roberts
I'm probably skipping this category in the Hugos, but I guess if I have time I can check out that one.
ILLUSTRATED AND ART BOOK
WINNER: Spectrum 26: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic Art, John Fleskes, ed.
The Illustrated World of Tolkien, David Day
Julie Dillon, Daydreamer’s Journey
Ed Emshwiller, Dream Dance: The Art of Ed Emshwiller, Jesse Pires, ed.
Donato Giancola, Middle-earth: Journeys in Myth and Legend
Raya Golden, Starport, George R.R. Martin
Fantasy World-Building: A Guide to Developing Mythic Worlds and Legendary Creatures, Mark A. Nelson
Tran Nguyen, Ambedo: Tran Nguyen
Yuko Shimizu, The Fairy Tales of Oscar Wilde, Oscar Wilde
Bill Sienkiewicz, The Island of Doctor Moreau, H.G. Wells
Spectrum is a boring winner.
SPECIAL AWARD 2020: INCLUSIVITY AND REPRESENTATION EDUCATION
WINNER: Writing the Other, Nisi Shawl, Cynthia Ward, & K. Tempest Bradford
Uhhhh... okay, so, look, Writing the Other is a classic, and I have actually read it, but I am not convinced that "let's honor a book that's been around for like 15 years" is actually the triumphant recognition of contemporary Black voices that Locus maybe thinks it is. I don't know, I guess "oh shit we never gave that star an Oscar let's give them a Special Award" is a thing in the Oscars, so it might as well be here too, buuuut... I am totally not qualified to speak to this, but I feel like part of what Racefail was about was trying to get *away* from the "Writing the Other" model to the "shut up and listen to the Other writing themselves" model?? Although I guess "Writing the Other" does speak to that, iIrc. And maybe a big org like Locus embracing this is a good step towards moving the window of how we value diversity in books. I guess I'd like to hear what Shawl thinks, or maybe current writers of color who have talked about these issues (Jemisin? Roanhorse? Ng?). I hope I'm not being a dick about this in the way I'm talking about it - I'm not opposed to showering Shawl and Ward and Bradford with recognition! I guess I have now convinced myself that I'm voting for Ng's speech in the Related Works, actually, though, so, I've accomplished something here. :/
