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On further reflection: I still love it. Yes, there are a lot of things that don't make sense, but, enh, it was fun, they told a good story, I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt and write off most of the mysteries as a long con on the part of Smokey or Jacob. They acknowledged that Jacob was a dick with stupid and arbitrary rules, so hey.

A partial list of things I liked:
- that Kate got to kill Smokey. She got to do something significant! Something fitting her backstory
of having tried to kill to protect someone and it not working out!
- Kate and Claire off to be Aaron's two mommies.
- Rose and Bernard!
- that Richard discovers an interest in life after all.
- Lapidus! flies the fucking plane!
- Sun and Jin's sudden magical English skills in the do-over, hee.
- Hurley. Oh god, Huuuuuurley. I think Josh was bothered by how emotional I got when he takes up the mantle but wah, that was like The Moment for me, Good defeating not only Evil but also Dickishness, but at the cost of Hurley getting to have a life... wah.
- Sawyer and Juliette!
- I was a little dubious about Sayid/Shannon - I was always more of a Sayid/Nadia shipper - but, I dunno, I'm willing to believe that Nadia was always kind of mixed up with the war for him, and Shannon was something totally fresh and new. Or just that you can love someone deeply like he did Nadia without them being part of your karass and the group we see at the end isn't all of everyone's personal loved ones, it's the karass.
- I wish we'd seen Eko in the do-over, but I guess he wasn't connected enough to everyone to be part of the karass? Or maybe he just went straight to heaven to reunite with Yemi or whatever?

Date: 2010-05-25 04:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
Mr. Eko was supposed to be in the finale, but the actor asked for too much money (according to E!).

Date: 2010-05-28 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psocoptera.livejournal.com
Doh. Interesting, though, thanks!

Date: 2010-05-25 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cereph.livejournal.com
I'm definitely conflicted, because I did like a lot of aspects of the episode, including everything you mentioned above, and also when Vincent curled up with Jack at the end. I bet I'll like it a lot more once I watch it again.

Date: 2010-05-25 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdh92.livejournal.com
I'm pretty mixed about a lot of the finale. Some of it was great, especially the dialogue early on, but other parts, eh. For example,

It was great that Rose and Bernard were in the finale, but their scene really felt like a rehash of the one in last season's finale. Granted, it you're going to repeat a scene, that's a good one, but still.

For some reason I had a hard time suspending my disbelief that the plane could actually fly. And if that was all it took to get it in the air, why didn't they leave last year? Chalk it up to the power of duct tape I guess.

The whole Shannon thing felt very forced to me.

The biggest gripe I have though is that the revelation of what the Sidewise-verse is just doesn't feel like it matches with what we saw earlier. It works fine with the waking people up and gathering them together theme of the last few episodes, but the earlier stuff not so much.

Date: 2010-05-25 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adfamiliares.livejournal.com
Presumably leaving (by plane, as opposed to sub) required not only a working plane, but also either temporarily turning off the island's special field and/or Jacob's death & the suspension of his rules.

Date: 2010-05-26 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdh92.livejournal.com
Good point. I still have my issues with the working plane part, but I'm also well aware that at this point saying "you're objecting to that and not a gazillion other things?" is entirely justified.

Date: 2010-05-26 03:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] irilyth
I found the plane thing surprisingly distracting. I don't really know squat about this, but my vague impression is that (a) you can't start a plane's engines from batteries, you do it while the plane is still plugged in to the airport; (b) there's no reverse gear, you have a ground vehicle that pushes the plane back from the jetway. Like I say, I could be totally wrong about this, but it was jarring, and didn't really add anything -- it wasn't like the scene would've been boring without "oh gosh, will they be able to start the plane?" or "oh gosh, how will they back up?" or anything.

Date: 2010-05-27 01:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
Plenty of planes have "reverse thrust" that will allow them to back up. They don't use it to back away from the gate because you don't want jet exhaust blowing out the terminal windows the plane is pointed at. :) It also runs a risk of damaging the engine.

Date: 2010-05-28 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psocoptera.livejournal.com
Well, I had thought the theme of the sideverse was something like "everyone's life was better without Jacob messing with them", so the reveal that it kind of was a wish-fulfillment universe worked for me. Not heaven (not yet), but a chance for a do-over... I liked it.

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